David & Joe talk to David Wilson, a former prison governor and well known criminologist. Despite the grim subject, they manage to get a smile from the professor before settling down for an indepth chat about true crime and psychopathic behaviour. They talk about the 'Sixth Commandment' BBC dramatisation. David Wilson previously wrote a book A Plot to Kill about this tragic true story (before the drama came out) and he tells them a bit more about what he knows from researching for the book. David and Joe ask loads of questions about serial killers. David Wilson tells them about getting mistaken for Graham Norton. Professor Wilson's Criminology course - use code CHATABIX25 to get 25% discount on the Premium Version. https://www.ecademi.co.uk/anintroductiontocriminology 'A Plot To Kill' available online, at bookstores or Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plot-Kill-deception-betrayal-English/dp/0751582166 https://www.instagram.com/emeritusdavidwilson/ Follow Chatabix on Twitter & Instagram: twitter.com/chatabix1 www.instagram.com/chatabixpodcast/ Patreon for early access to our eps: https://www.patreon.com/chatabix Crunchy fresh tees and hoodies: https://chatabixshop.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices