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Woman's Hour

Professor Jo Phoenix tribunal victory, Actor Sarah Greene

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In an exclusive interview, Emma Barnett speaks to the academic Professor Jo Phoenix who has won an unfair dismissal claim against the Open University after she was compared with “a racist uncle at the Christmas table” because of her gender critical beliefs.

New York Times writer Amanda Taub brings us the latest news from the US Presidential race.

Irish actor Sarah Greene on her new project, an eight-part series – Sexy Beast – which has just launched on Paramount+.

And we hear about a campaign to get a new portrait of Margaret Bondfield, the first female government minister, commissioned and hung in Parliament with MP Alison McGovern and historian Professor Pam Cox.

Presenter: Emma Barnett Producer: Lisa Jenkinson Studio Manager: Tim Heffer

Transcript

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You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and maybe it's when I had a hand in.

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I'm Tammy Walker and I produce podcasts with a BBC.

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0:34.0

Hello, I'm Emma Barnet and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:40.0

Please note that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

0:46.5

Professor of Criminology Joe Phoenix was compared with a racist uncle at the Christmas table because of her gender critical beliefs and has just

0:55.7

won an unfair dismissal claim against the Open University.

1:00.1

That comment from a former colleague. She'll be speaking to me shortly in her first interview

1:04.8

after winning her tribunal.

1:06.5

That was announced yesterday.

1:08.4

Interestingly, in a statement from her former employer,

1:11.6

Open University Vice Chancellor Professor Tim Blackman said he was

1:14.9

disappointed by the judgment and will be considering whether to appeal, but also that the

1:19.9

university could learn from it. He said, quote, our priority has been to protect freedom of

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