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Let's Find Common Ground

Professor Ilyasa Shabazz, Dr. Brian Williams: What Racism Means to Me

Let's Find Common Ground

USC Dornsife Center for the Political Future

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🗓️ 18 June 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Nationwide protests against racism, police violence, and racial inequality have shaken the nation to its core. Support for Black Lives Matter and anger over police treatment of African-Americans grew dramatically in recent weeks. Outrage over the disturbingly graphic deaths of George Floyd and other black men and women have changed the debate over racism. In this podcast, we look for potential areas of common ground, and consider the prospects for lasting change. Our guests are Ilyasah Shabazz, and Brian Williams, MD. Professor Shabazz often speaks about the remarkable legacy of her father, Malcolm X. She promotes higher education for at-risk youth and interfaith dialogue to build bridges between cultures for young leaders of the world. Doctor Williams led the trauma team that treated police officers ambushed by a sniper in Dallas in 2016 - the largest loss of life for US law enforcement since 9/11. "Education and discussion is a start, but not enough," Dr. Williams tells us. "A lot of us have been educating and talking and waiting for a long long time. Now is the time for action." If we're taught hate we're never going to solve any problems. It looks like that's what the young people are saying and it's great, says Professor Shabazz. "We need our young people to have their voices, to speak up and help us make change." In this podcast, we discuss the findings of two studies related to racism: Research on children's perceptions of black and white dolls, and the 40-year U.S. Public Health Service study of syphilis in Macon County, Alabama.

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0:00.0

Have you been rethinking your views of how America should work?

0:05.0

The role of the police, the extent of racism in our society?

0:09.2

Today we asked two African American thinkers and activists a personal question for all of us to consider

0:16.2

what racism means to me.

0:18.6

This is let's find common ground.

0:21.9

I'm Ashley Milntight. I'm Richard Davies.

0:24.3

Outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and other black men and women has changed the debate over racism.

0:37.0

We look at the prospects for lasting change and whether the response to recent events is a common ground moment.

0:43.2

Our guests are Iliaza Chabazz and Dr. Brian Williams.

0:48.2

Professor Chabazz promotes social justice and higher education for at-risk youth.

0:53.0

She teaches at John Jay College of Criminal Justice

0:55.8

in New York, and she's the author of the memoir

0:58.3

Growing Up X.

0:59.9

She's often asked to speak about the legacy of her father, Malcolm X.

1:04.0

Dr. Brian Williams is associate professor of trauma and acute care surgery at the University

1:09.6

of Chicago Medical Center.

1:11.6

He led the trauma team that treated police officers ambushed by a sniper

1:16.0

in Dallas in 2016, the largest loss of life for U.S. law enforcement since 9-11.

1:23.3

First question to Iliasa.

1:26.0

How do you think the national discussion about racism

1:29.6

has changed over the last 50 years or so?

1:32.0

Well, I think that, especially seeing the slow horrific murder of George Floyd,

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