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🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Labor economists will tell ya, productivity growth leads to more hiring. The idea is, once a company is operating more efficiently, they’ll try expanding, which usually comes with new jobs. But in this frustrating and bizarre economy, data show major productivity gains and a stagnant labor market … coexisting? Also in this episode: New York City expands a free child care program, one reporter tries to do the job(s) of the federal government, and economists expect a less-grim December jobs report.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, you. Yes, yes, you. How productive were you today? I'm asking because the economy wants to know. |
| 0:12.7 | From American public media, this is Marketplace. |
| 0:28.5 | Music In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle. Today, this one is the 8th of January. |
| 0:31.7 | Good as always to have you along, everybody. |
| 0:34.4 | Among the mysteries at large in this economy of late, among them, why do consumers keep |
| 0:39.6 | spending when we are so cranky? Why haven't tariffs taken as big a bite as we expected? We talked |
| 0:44.9 | about that one yesterday. There is also this. How can the economy be growing at the decent |
| 0:50.9 | clip that it is when the labor market is to be kind stalled. Well, we got an answer to that |
| 0:58.5 | last one today. The labor department's shutdown delayed report on worker productivity for the third |
| 1:04.0 | quarter. It grew at the fastest pace in two years, 4.9 percent annualized. Marketplace's Nova Sopho makes it make sense. |
| 1:13.1 | The big jump in productivity in the third quarter is not a surprise to Gerald Cohen, |
| 1:17.7 | chief economist at UNC Chapel Hill. |
| 1:20.3 | We knew that GDP was quite strong in the third quarter, and employment and in particular |
| 1:27.4 | hours worked was quite weak. |
| 1:29.6 | The gap in between is filled by strong productivity. Inflation and new tariffs are making |
| 1:35.6 | businesses reluctant to hire and they're getting more out of each worker they already have. |
| 1:40.8 | But Cohen, whose research focuses on productivity, says it remains to be seen if the gains so |
| 1:46.2 | far are a long-term trend. If we saw strong labor force growth and strong productivity growth, |
| 1:53.9 | I would feel better about this productivity number and say, oh, yeah, maybe this is something. |
| 1:59.9 | But plenty of analysts on Wall Street today did think it's something. |
| 2:04.7 | We could be seeing at least the initial stages of some payoff, |
| 2:09.7 | particular of the AI-driven automation. |
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