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I met Mr. Gracie, the father, and I met Hickson Gracie, who was the world champion at that

time.

So I asked him if I could work out with him.

I was a black belt in judo, so I thought I had some pretty good grappling skills.

Anyway, I got on the ground with Hickson Gracie, and it's like I'd never had a lesson

in my life.

He played with me.

That is Chuck Norris, probably the most famous martial artist in the world, talking about

one of the best that ever was, and is Hickson Gracie.

From the legendary Gracie family, he's got a brand new book out called Breathe, Life in

Flow.

Hickson, welcome to the Bryan Killmeach show.

Bryan, thank you, my friend.

Thanks for inviting me.

It's a pleasure to be with you, my brother.

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