Proclivity
Small Town Dicks
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4.7 • 10K Ratings
🗓️ 3 May 2019
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
We sit down with world-renowned forensic scientist and cold-case investigator, Paul Holes, to hear about one of his first cold cases, as well as the profiling techniques he developed over the years to catch the serial sexual predators he hunted.Special Guest: Paul Holes: Paul Holes spent the majority of his 27-year career investigating cold cases and serial-predator crimes in the Bay Area of California. Just before he retired in April 2018, Paul lead the team that broke the Golden State Killer case, which brought him worldwide acclaim. Other notable cases he’s worked on include The Zodiac, Laci Peterson, Jaycee Dugard, Darryl Kemp, Joseph Naso, and Joseph Cordova Jr. Paul recently released an audiobook titled “Evil Has a Name” which is available on Audible. You can also hear him on the true-crime podcast, "The Murder Squad.” which he co-hosts with investigative journalist Billy Jensen.
WARNING: this episode deals with graphic descriptions of sexual assault. Listener discretion is advised.
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| 0:00.0 | In this episode, we sit down with Paul Holes, the now world-famous cold case investigator |
| 0:09.4 | and forensic scientist who, in 2018, made headlines when his team finally identified Joseph |
| 0:16.2 | DiAngelo as the Golden State Killer, bringing a 24-year manhunt to its close. |
| 0:22.6 | But today, we have the rare opportunity to sit down with Paul and talk about one of his |
| 0:27.3 | first cold cases, as well as some of the profiling techniques he uses to catch these serial |
| 0:33.2 | predators. Please be warned that this episode contains graphic descriptions of sexual assault |
| 0:40.2 | and may not be suitable for all listeners. |
| 0:43.5 | I'm Yardley, and I'm Zibi, and we're fascinated by true crime. So we invited our friends, detectives, |
| 0:53.4 | Dan, and Dave, to sit down with us and share their most interesting cases. |
| 1:23.5 | Though we realize that some of our listeners may be familiar with these cases, we hope you'll |
| 1:28.7 | join us in continuing to protect the true identities of those involved out of respect for what they've |
| 1:33.7 | been through. Thank you. |
| 1:43.3 | Today on Small Town Dicks, we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dan. |
| 1:50.5 | Good morning. And we have Detective Dave. Happy to see you guys again. And race yourself, |
| 1:57.0 | Small Town Fam. We have a very special guest. We have back with us, Paul Holes. How are you guys doing? |
| 2:04.1 | We're so happy to see you. It's great to be here. So Paul, you're obviously best known now all |
| 2:10.0 | over the world for leading the team that broke the Golden State Killer case, or GSK, as it's also |
| 2:16.7 | known, and for identifying the Golden State Killer as being Joseph D'Angelo. Small Town Fam, |
| 2:22.4 | listen to me. If you don't already know about the Golden State Killer case, google it. It is a |
| 2:27.9 | horrific litany of crimes. The investigation is fascinating, and the whole thing will keep you up |
| 2:34.3 | at night. But Paul, before that moment last spring, which shot you into the spotlight, we really |
| 2:42.0 | love to know about some of your earlier cases. Why don't you just tell us about one that you're |
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