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Now & Then

Processing Roe’s Reversal in Real Time

Now & Then

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, History, News Commentary

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Heather and Joanne react to the overturning of Roe v. Wade. How did we get here? What does the Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs signal for the future of women’s reproductive rights and broader civil rights in America? What kind of unique perspective do women historians bring to understanding this moment? Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. Head to: cafe.com/history For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Editorial Producer: David Kurlander; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Theme Music: Nat Weiner; CAFE Team: Adam Waller, David Tatasciore, Sam Ozer-Staton, Noa Azulai, and Jake Kaplan. Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. REFERENCES & SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS “Now & Then: Abortion: Whose Choice?” CAFE.com, 9/14/2021   “The Dobbs v. Jackson Decision, Annotated,” New York Times, 6/24/2022 Justice Benjamin Robert Curtis, “Dissenting Opinion, Dred Scott v. Sanford,” Rutgers, 1857 Amy Howe, “In 6-3 ruling, court strikes down New York’s concealed-carry law,” SCOTUSBlog, 6/23/2022 “Anson Burlingame,” HarpWeek, 1998 Frida Ghitis, “Opinion: These two women reminded America why Tr… must be prosecuted,” CNN, 6/23/2022 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Heather here.

0:03.6

And Joanne too.

0:04.9

As we approach the holidays, the news keeps coming.

0:08.5

And cafe continues to offer political, legal, and historical context to help make sense

0:13.8

of it all.

0:14.8

Cafe Insider helps you stay informed about important issues so you can make sense of

0:19.8

the latest headlines not just in your head, but also at the dinner table.

0:24.6

Members get access to exclusive content, including the Cafe Insider podcast, hosted

0:29.9

by Pete Barara and Joyce Vance, as well as bonus content from StayToon with Pete and from

0:35.5

our podcast now and then.

0:38.0

From now through the end of November, you can get 50% off the annual membership price by

0:43.2

heading to cafe.com slash history.

0:47.2

That's cafe.com slash history.

0:50.5

We hope you'll join the conversation and become a member of the Insider community.

0:59.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.

1:06.8

I'm Heather Cox Richardson and I'm Joanne Freeman.

1:10.3

Today we're going to be doing something a little different.

1:13.8

We are recording this episode on the afternoon of Friday, June 24th, just a few hours after

1:22.9

the announcement of the Supreme Court decision in DOBS versus Jackson Women's Health organization

1:29.9

which essentially overturned the constitutional right to abortion.

1:35.6

What we thought we would do today is Heather and I would have a conversation with each other,

1:41.5

not planned, certainly not scripted, but that really what we would do is engage with each

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