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🗓️ 11 July 2020
⏱️ 66 minutes
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0:00.0 | You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation to learn more visit caac.org |
0:10.6 | On today's episode we talk about the sixth theme of the alternative orthodoxy, |
0:15.0 | which is the path of descent is the path of transformation. |
0:18.5 | Darkness, failure, relapse, death, and woodedness are our primary teachers |
0:23.6 | rather than ideas or doctrines. |
0:26.4 | And this theme really helps because it builds off the previous one as we've kind of seen that |
0:30.8 | continue to unfold as we've been discussing these. |
0:34.0 | How does this theme land for you, Bre? When you think of the path of descent? |
0:38.1 | I really wish this one wasn't true. |
0:41.0 | But it's interesting because I think about the fact that heartbreak and creativity, |
0:45.7 | I know it's almost cliche, but heartbreak and creativity go together, |
0:50.0 | that it makes sense then to me that failure, relapse, death, |
0:54.6 | woundedness, mistakes are our primary teachers of transformation. |
0:59.1 | They go together. There's something about the breaking down and breaking open |
1:04.6 | that allows us to see differently and connect to each other differently. |
1:09.9 | Yeah, I love the way that powerlessness was brought into this conversation |
1:14.0 | as it's in those vulnerable states that were not only able to be more connected to ourselves |
1:20.0 | and to God, but to one another and really see that we are all in this together. |
1:24.7 | Richard models this so well because he lives out of that radical vulnerability and humility. |
1:33.0 | I mean, how many times have we sat here in the recordings and he just openly admits to like, |
1:37.6 | yeah, I'm really terrible at this or I do this thing or I'm so proud and I, |
1:42.1 | you know, I'm still doing this at my age. |
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