Probably the Ugliest Woman
Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 โข 2K Ratings
๐๏ธ 10 February 2026
โฑ๏ธ 55 minutes
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Summary
Kate and Jacqueline analyze what made a man on Twitter say such a nasty thing. The hags reflect on the indecency of Pop Crave and the courage it takes to feel ugly next to beautiful women. Jacqueline recounts interactions with trolls and Kate considers starting a Serial-esque podcast to get closure. Some of these men have dogs โ daughters, even. Ultimately, this is the abstraction of violence โ but the Hags wonder whether Daniel was just fulfilling his sacred contract to Kate. The walking brain is different and if you post about Tom Cruise he will see it.
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Edited and mixed by Allie Graham
Music by Naomi McPherson
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| 0:00.0 | Two best friends both alike in dignity, nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. |
| 0:07.2 | The hag divines when something must die. |
| 0:09.5 | Yes, that was poog. |
| 0:10.7 | But this is huge. |
| 0:12.2 | The ego loves to seek, but never to find. |
| 0:15.0 | It was Berlant and Novak the whole time. |
| 0:19.8 | Off air, I was talking about having, just so everyone understands, having a meltdown |
| 0:23.8 | over my continued redness. Today, my skin was the best it's been. I put on hydrochortosone cream, |
| 0:28.3 | and it immediately flares up. I don't actually start crying, but I start being like, frozen and |
| 0:34.0 | disbelief. And my face is still kind of burning again want everyone to understand |
| 0:38.3 | and it's some kind of allergic reaction whatever i'm fucking convinced it was germapainting a month |
| 0:43.8 | ago are you serious yep germopening a month ago fucked up my barrier but using products being |
| 0:49.6 | well sure sorry to say it different sets random products different makeups literally today the dermatologist goes, you know, area on aerosols. I go, yeah. She goes, yeah, you can. And I was like, well, I use smell mucin. Basically, she's like, you can be using a product to have no reaction. Just suddenly you're allergic to it. I was like, oh, cool. That's complete and total, like, so we're fucked. We're fucked beyond belief. Anyway, point is, but then you said, so I go, I go, being ugly, feeling ugly, the horrors. So, and I'll post on, I sent Jacqueline a photo. So, um. It's funny, I was going to say, and I was going to say this earlier, shall we talk today about fucking... |
| 1:30.3 | Being called ugly on the internet? |
| 1:31.8 | Yeah, or appearance. |
| 1:33.4 | Appearance and the horrors. |
| 1:34.8 | And the life now that we live. |
| 1:36.5 | The life now that we live. |
| 1:37.9 | And to be clear, I see, even though I'm rehabilitatingitating from Instagram and I'm over a month. |
| 1:44.3 | I have over 30 days of sobriety from Instagram. |
| 1:47.7 | But I did see, due to a motion picture in which I have approximately four lines, |
| 1:54.5 | the moment starring Charlie XX, thank you to all involved. |
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