Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

Listen first on BBC Sounds. The Scrum 5 Podcast with Stefan Guerrer from BBC Radio Wales.

Right, thanks for downloading the podcast. Second one for you guys this week because

well a lot happens since we chat with the Blues. So Martin is back from New Zealand, from his little lions trek. So we are going to have a

look at Lee Halfpenny and his probable move to the scarlets, which by the time you're

listed might be an actual move

it might have all fallen through but we'll chat about it either way we're also

have a look at the pro-12 we'll look at the pro 14 because it's all changed in the past 24 hours. We'll have a look at the two

conferences and we'll have a look at how it's going to work, whether it's going to

work, what the problems are, and who on Earth for South African teams are as well. So Martin, we have a pro-14 league. We've got two conferences. It's finally kind of come out as the African teams are in.

What do you make of it as a product now?

Yeah, look, initially when the conference is, you know, we're talking about a few weeks back.

You're a little bit skeptical about all that.

But then I think when you look at it, if you added

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