I think it's very difficult to keep momentum for momentum's sake. We all have a thousand things to do.

We're all slightly exhausted. We all have complicated relationships with someone in our families

that we need to deal with. It's life. And so for me, I think the thing that keeps momentum,

again, over the course of a lifetime, is nurturing and practicing the deep ability

of discerning the need in front of you and finding creative ways to bring people along to

address it.

I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly, a podcast about pacing yourself,

where I explore the question of how do we begin again, as we start to emerge from a global pandemic

with the opportunity to restructure our lives, our relationships, and our communities

in new ways. It's been a bit of a wait since I launched the opening episode for season

four, but we'll be dropping into a regular monthly rhythm of new episodes from here on out.

And let me tell you, if today's interview is any indication, and it is,

this season's lineup is going to be strong. But before I dive into the introduction, let me share

an important note about the future of this podcast. As part of my own personal journey of

beginning to detangle myself, little by little, from the standard capitalistic modes of doing business, this podcast will no longer be an ad-supported show.

Instead, Hurry Slowly will rely entirely on listener donations to support itself moving forward.

Now, I'm guessing you've probably already got this impression, but I don't just toss off these episodes.

On this interview alone, I spent hours and hours reading books, listening to podcasts,

reviewing old interviews, and meditating deep and long on exactly what questions to ask.

To say nothing of the time spent afterwards on editing the episode

and prepping it to be published,

which includes substantive time from myself and my producer,

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