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The State has been in German history developed not under democratic,

or species, but has developed under constitutional arrangement.

So the state was identified by the monarch and there was the bourgeois society on the other side.

And especially the military, the police, and naturally,

then also the secret police was always identified with the monarch and the society

had nothing to do with it.

And I think it will still take us a while to become aware in the same sense that you are aware that these are our secret services,

that this is our police.

It's still regarded, I think, by many in Germany that this is a business of the state

and they do not identify in the same way democratically with all of the institutions of the state

as I think that is very natural for the US citizen to do.

I'm Quintedrassic and this is the LawFair podcast, April 29th, 2017.

Four years ago, Edward Snowden's disclosures bought the nature and scope of NSA surveillance precipitated a fissure between Europe and the United States

and questions of privacy and intelligence oversight.

A new volume titled Privacy and Power, a transatlantic dialogue in the shadow of the NSA affair,

edited by Russell Miller, provides a careful exploration of that still-unhealed split.

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