We're bringing Australian True Crime live to Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne this July,

and I have to tell you that Brisbane sold out already.

Good for you, Brisbane, so we've quickly added a second show.

Now we can't keep adding more shows, so please make sure you get your tickets. Our special guests,

our forensic criminologist Santee Mallet in Brisbane and Sydney and the one and only Charlie Bazzina in

Melbourne. There'll be a Q&A of course so you can ask your own burning questions on the night but you have to book quickly.

The producers of this podcast recognize the traditional owners of the land on which it's recorded.

They pay respect to the Aboriginal elders past, present and those emerging.

Welcome to Crime Fiction Friday with Emily Webb, where I explore the minds that bring us

wicked, terrifying and chilling best-selling reads. By day, Valerie is a forensic psychologist and she evaluates prison inmates in California, most of whom have committed murder or another serious crime, and have been in jail for a very long time and a coming up for parole.

Then she's writing thrillers with her profession providing no end of inspiration.

Aller is the author of the Detective Thriller series featuring Criminal Psychologist Olivia Rockwell and Detective

Will Decker.

Ellery and I spoke about her fascinating career and I couldn't help of thinking of Clary Starling and Holden Ford and Bill Tench from Mindhunter.

But before I get more carried away, let's hear some of Ellery's first book in the Rockwell and Dec Decker series, Watch with good reason.

Every time she pushed open those heavy oak doors, crossed the threshold, and seated herself in a pew, something terrible had happened.

It started on the day her mother had forced her into a dress and itchy white tights and dragged her into church near their apartment in the double rock projects where they dropped to their knees to pray.

That very night, the jury had returned with the decision,

guilty, and the police carted her father away

to the place he still called home, prison. Ellery Kane, it is great to speak to you for Crime Fiction Friday.

I've started reading your book Watch Her Vanish and it's really good it's it's

introducing us to a criminal psychologist Olivia Rockwell tell us about what you do in

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