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Flightless Bird

Prison Firefighters

Flightless Bird

David Farrier

Society & Culture, Documentary, Comedy

4.93.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Trigger warning: Today’s episode is very much adults only. In this week’s episode, Flightless Bird explores incarcerated firefighters, talking to former inmate Matthew Hahn who signed up to fight fires when he was serving time. Hahn brings his lived experience to this episode, talking about his time inside and his rehabilitation and road to recovery. The episode takes a turn when we discover what led Matt to this prison term - and how he got out early. Links:Matt can be found @hahnscratch on social media, or at www.matthewhahn.comLive show tickets for Denver on July 3: http://bit.ly/lostkiwiDENLive show tickets for Chicago on July 10: http://bit.ly/lostkiwiCHI Email us: flightlessbirdchat@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Just a quick note at the top of this episode, it's very much adults only, trigger warning central.

0:06.5

Please listen with caution, and if you've got kids in the car, this probably isn't an episode for them.

0:12.8

If Spaceman Barry was triggering for you, this one may also have the same triggers.

0:20.8

Okay, on with the show.

0:23.1

Hi, Rosabel. How are you?

0:24.9

I'm good. How are you?

0:26.6

I'm really good. Now, we are in person because I've come to visit you in Manchester for the week.

0:32.1

I'd argue we've had a great time. Have you had a great time?

0:35.4

I've had a really good time. It was so nice that you came to

0:38.3

see me. Do you have any feedback on what it's been like to spend a week with me? Because I mean,

0:44.5

we used to fight together and stuff. Am I still a good person to hang out with? Yeah, I think what's

0:50.2

good about the fact we know how to be in the same space together is that we don't

0:57.0

actually spend that much time together. We're like in the same space but we're just doing our own thing.

1:02.0

Now the topic on today's episode, as always, is very American. I'm looking into prison firefighters.

1:11.7

So prisoners that are, they leave the prison and they go out and they fight fires while

1:16.5

they finish their sentence.

1:19.2

Do you have any thoughts on that?

1:21.6

I didn't know that was the thing.

1:23.2

So you mean that if you are in prison, you can be a firefighter, so when there's a fire,

1:28.7

you'd leave to go do your job?

1:30.9

Yeah.

1:32.0

That's my understanding.

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