From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Bob Garfield.

And I'm Brooke Gladstone. To kick this hour off, consider all the dead cultural products that aren't dead.

For instance, if you think that, say, epic poetry died after Tennyson's Iddles of the King in the 19th century

or maybe after Ezra Pound's Cantos in the 20th, check out Wikipedia.

They're still being written.

And, of course, we've heard forever that movies would murder theater.

Uh-huh.

Anybody got Hamilton tickets?

And that TV would do in radio.

Hey, is this on?

Huh.

Turns out neither is dead yet.

Or even wheezing.

And I could go on.

The point is, we've all heard that e-books will kill paperbooks.

And since paperbooks are more profitable for publishers, that

will kill the industry. Ergo the book, dog-eared and scribbled in, that thing we grew up with

is dead. But not so fast. It lives. Seriously, some numbers. Last December, Nielsen BookScan reported that 571 million

print books were sold in 2015, a 17 million increase from the year before. What's driving

those sales of paper books? And what can we expect from the publishing industry this year?

When we first aired this hour back in March,

I asked Carolyn Kellogg, books editor at the Los Angeles Times,

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