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🗓️ 4 January 2024
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The unsolved mystery of what happened to the Princes in the Tower - Edward V and Richard, Duke of York - is possibly English history’s greatest cold case. Were they murdered by their paternal uncle Richard III? Or were two plotters to take the Tudor throne of King Henry VII - Lambert Simnel and Perkin Warbeck - connected to, or in reality, the Princes who had survived?
Recent findings have raised new questions about the 540-year-old mystery and in this episode of Not Just the Tudors, Professor Suzannah Lipscomb explores the evidence and the enduring speculation with author Nathen Amin and History Hit presenter, Matt Lewis.
This episode was produced by Rob Weinberg.
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| 0:00.0 | Edward the 5th and Richard Duke of York were two young boys who never became what their father, King Edward the 4th, intended. |
| 0:10.0 | In 1483, their paternal uncle, Richard Duke of Gloucester lodged the boys in the Tower of London in preparation for Edward the 5th's upcoming coronation. |
| 0:20.0 | But Gloucester then declared the boys illegitimate and himself acceded to the throne as Richard the third. |
| 0:26.0 | The story of the two boys has become one of mythical proportions, |
| 0:30.0 | the mystery of the princes in the tower, said to be murdered by their evil uncle. |
| 0:35.9 | But history never stands still, and in recent months we've seen the reanimation of a story that |
| 0:40.8 | circulated in the 1490s. |
| 0:42.8 | Entertwining Edward the 5th and Richard Duke of York |
| 0:46.4 | with the story of the pretenders under Henry the 7th, |
| 0:49.6 | those who made a claim to his throne. |
| 0:51.6 | It's the story of twists, every bit as delicious as everything |
| 0:54.4 | else in the Tudor century. Were the pretenders actually the missing Edward V. and Richard Duke of York? And if so, was it Henry |
| 1:02.4 | the 7th, not Richard of the 3rd who was responsible for the demise of the boys so he could secure the Tudor dynasty or did they in fact live on? |
| 1:11.0 | To debate the evidence I'm delighted to be joined by Nathan Ammin and |
| 1:15.3 | Matt Lewis. Nathan is the author of Henry the 7th and the Tudor pretenders, |
| 1:20.3 | similar Warbeck and Warwick and Matt is an author and historian, host of my fellow history-hit |
| 1:27.0 | podcast, Gone Medieval, and the Chair of the Richard III Society. |
| 1:31.6 | And I should add, there is little agreement between today's guests, so be prepared for some excitement. |
| 1:40.0 | Well, it is a treat to welcome you both to not just the tutors. Thank you so much for being with me. |
| 1:48.0 | It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having us. |
| 1:50.0 | Yeah, thank you very much for the invite. |
| 1:52.0 | The focus today is going to be on the so-called |
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