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The Eurointelligence Podcast

Prime Minister No. 5

The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

Eu-china, Spain, Political Risk, Netherlands, European Politics, Eu, Brexit, European Integration, Eurozone, Uk, France, Italy, Political Economy, Recovery Fund, Political Union, Transatlantic Relations, European Union, Geopolitics, Business, Fiscal Union, Trade, Politics, Economics, China, Government, Banking, Ecb, News, Germany

4.530 Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In our latest podcast, our team discusses the political and economic consequences of Sébastien Lecornu.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Euro Intelligence Podcast.

0:02.7

I'm Wolfgang Munchau, and with me are Zasanna Muncheng and Jack Smith.

0:07.0

Today, once again, we will talk about France.

0:10.2

Emmanuel Macron has just appointed Sebastian Le Corny, the former defense minister,

0:16.0

as the new prime minister to succeed Francois Beirou, who predictably lost the vote of confidence in the

0:24.3

National Assembly by a surprisingly, we thought, a surprisingly wide margin.

0:29.5

So we're basically in a situation where another attempt will be made to sort out the political

0:36.7

difficulties that France has gotten into.

0:38.6

Susanne, you've been covering the story for us. Where are we now? What are the, where is it going?

0:45.3

Yes, I think the most depressing thing about French politics at the moment is that we can start

0:51.6

any paragraph with the first sentence.

0:54.7

As expected, François Berrault failed in his endeavor to get the public to back his budget

1:02.9

that was to solve the public debt or to really produce it significantly the public debt.

1:10.6

He failed to convince people.

1:12.8

Instead, we had parties becoming much more political,

1:17.2

turning into a campaign modus,

1:19.6

and voted Baru out of Osses.

1:22.6

So he was the fourth prime minister since 2022,

1:31.0

the second term of Emmanuel Macron, when he lost his majority in the parliament. And now Sebastian de Kournui was immediately nominated. Normally,

1:38.7

Emmanuel Macron took his time to find a new prime minister. This time, I think he didn't consult much

1:45.0

because Sebastian Connolly was on the list

1:48.3

in the previous three nominations anyways.

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