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Woman's Hour

Primary school suspensions, Chess, Female birdsong

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

According to the latest Department of Education data, more than 7000 children under six were suspended in the 24 /25 school year in England and the number of children losing learning to repeat suspensions has doubled in two years, with the steepest rises among the youngest. This is against a slowing of suspensions in secondary schools. So why is this happening in primary schools? Anita Rani is joined by Kiran Gill, chief executive of The Difference, a school leadership charity who's been analysing this data.

Last month eleven year old Bodhana Sivanandan became England’s highest ranked female chess player. The numbers of women registering to compete is slowly rising, but the game is still male dominated. Anita talks to two women who work in chess to find out more - Sarah Longson, CEO of the UK chess challenge, and chess player and streamer Sarah El Barbry.

Last October a Sikh woman was subjected to racially aggravated rape and assault in her own home just outside Birmingham. Perpetrator John Ashby followed his victim - a stranger to him - off a bus into her house, where he carried out the brutal assault. Last week he was sentenced to life in prison. The BBC's Midlands Correspondent Phil Mackie joins Anita to tell us more about the case, alongside Sukhvinder Kaur, the Chair of Trustees at Sikh Women's Aid.

As the spring dawn chorus reaches its peak, a new book is challenging long held assumptions about birdsong, and revealing the overlooked role of female birds. Researcher Lucy McRobert, collaborator for the new book, The Sound of Birding: Second Edition, joins Anita to tune our ears to a richer, more complex soundscape.

Pippa Cleary is the only female British composer to have had three musicals in the West End, with hits like The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole and The Great British Bake Off Musical. Her latest show, Bank of Dave the Musical, co-written with Rob Madge, is about to make its world premiere and she joins Anita to talk about turning the true life story of Dave Fishwick into a joyful stage show.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Corinna Jones

Transcript

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You're about to listen to a BBC podcast.

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It's such a wonderful listen.

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So nice.

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There are loads more like it on BBC Sounds.

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Different paces, different heights, the roof is buckling.

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Where you can also listen to live sports commentary.

0:20.2

It's right foot goes for goal.

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And then enjoy even more podcasts full of analysis and reaction to the big stories.

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The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession.

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And she's had to live with that.

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So if you love sport, a passion, it's almost like a religion.

0:35.8

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:37.8

Sort of expecting that every week now. Hello, I'm not having a passion. It's almost like a religion. Listen on BBC Sounds. Sort of expecting that every week now.

0:40.7

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:45.5

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

0:51.9

Good morning.

0:52.5

Good morning. No, that is not your phone ringing. That is the sound of a mallard. I'm sure many of you

1:06.4

will have known that, but what you may not know is that most birdsong is attributed to male birds. Well,

1:12.6

guess what? On women's hour today, we'll be turning our attention to female bird song. And yes,

1:18.0

that was a female mallard. And it's Friday the 1st of May, and I hope it's as sunny where you are

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