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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Primaries: What Are They Good For?

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2021

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Elaine Kamarck of the Brookings Institution joins us for the first time. She and Jonah stray from pure rank punditry to instead discuss intra-party politics of primaries, the Democratic Party, and Elaine’s innate skepticism of the Electoral College. Jonah pushes back by saying that “When you start to dig under the surface, most people who oppose the Electoral College are really just saying that they don’t like the Senate,” to which Elaine has a great, balanced response (probably the best answer we’ve heard on this program from someone that dislikes the Electoral College). Join the program to see more light than heat on this episode. Show Notes: -Elaine Kamarck, the Brookings Institution -Elaine’s latest book, Primary Politics: Everything You Need to Know about How America Nominates Its Presidential Candidates -Elaine: “The urgent need for peer review in the presidential nominating process” -The McGovern-Fraser Commission Report -"I opened up the doors of the Democratic Party, and 20 million people walked out." -81 percent of black Americans don't want less police presence -NYT: “Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police” -Lessons from Mike Bloomberg’s attempt to buy the 2020 election -Why Presidents Fail and How They Can Succeed Again -The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact -Elaine and John Hudak: “How to get rid of the Electoral College” -Elaine with Jon Ward on The Long Game podcast -The latest GLoP podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Oh

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Ladies and gentlemen

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Can I please have your attention?

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We have a great show for you, right?

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I

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Greetings to your listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnik podcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media

0:34.9

Come to the dispatch.com for all the good good stuff. So very excited about today's episode

0:41.0

Someone I kind of been kicking myself not to have on for a very long time

0:44.5

um, even the one of the reasons why I was a little reluctant is that as someone who got his first job in Washington at the American Enterprise Institute

0:55.4

Brookings, you know is really the it's it's it's it's the existential foe at least when it comes to softball

1:04.3

and

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But our guest Elaine K. Mark who is a senior fellow at Brookings and

1:11.3

and

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runs a center which I whose name I'm already going to mess up on government effectiveness

1:17.4

Something on one of those lines and as a Harvard fellow

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She's also someone I first met and she has no recollection of this

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When I worked for Ben Wattenberg at AI we were working on

1:29.8

Either his book values matter as most or that some PBS documentary about it

1:33.6

I learned more than any self-described conservative ever has about the coalition for the Democratic majority

1:41.3

The birth of the DLC the Progressive Policy Institute and all thing and of course scoop Jackson

1:49.0

Who I had the genu-flept to often and

1:53.5

Elaine has been part of various factional disputes and

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