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A Gay and A NonGay

Pride, Refugees & The Politics Of Britishness

A Gay and A NonGay

W!ZARD Studios

Mental Health, Sexuality, Comedy, Health & Fitness

4.3632 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

We're getting political on this episode of A Gay And A NonGay! Rylan’s controversial comments on immigration - the episode spirals into a fiery debate about misinformation, far-right rhetoric and the way everyday conversations in the UK are shaped by fear rather than facts. From England flags mysteriously appearing on lampposts to Pride merch being vandalised, James and Dan unpack what it really means to be "proud" of your country — and how queer and refugee communities get caught in the crossfire. Plus, the pair take a typically chaotic detour into whether Grindr is basically the Wild West of the internet. Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gaynongay.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email Us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠us@gaynongay.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, welcome to a gay and a non-gay.

0:08.6

I'm Dan Hudson, I'm non-gay.

0:10.5

He's James Barr, and he's gay.

0:12.5

Yo, thanks for listening.

0:14.6

Yes.

0:17.2

Why are you laughing?

0:18.4

This is something he would say at the end of an episode, really, rather than beginning. What? Yo. Thanks for listening. Oh, that's true. You never know when people might need a thanks for listening. What's going on, Ryland? It's so funny hearing people talk about this because a lot of people just aren't saying the name of who it is. So there's like this conversation about immigration in the UK is like in the zeitgeist

0:39.6

where people are just ignoring why it's come from because they love Rylan, which I completely

0:44.1

understand because I also do.

0:46.8

Like he, I love Rylan.

0:48.2

He's such a great guy.

0:49.9

But then he was on this morning and said this really stupid thing.

0:53.3

And I'll happily call him stupid because it was stupid. stupid. Misinformed is maybe a better word than stupid. And he talked about immigration in the UK. Illegal immigration, I think is exactly what they were talking about. And he talked about how refugees are welcomed into the UK. Here's the iPad. Here's the NHS in the reception of your hotel.

1:11.6

Here's three meals a day.

1:12.6

Here's games room in the hotel.

1:14.6

Have a lovely time. Welcome.

1:15.6

When they get here, it does seem, and I think this is why a lot of Labour voters as well, are now sitting there going, there's something wrong here.

1:22.6

It seems, welcome. Come on in.

1:25.6

This is the narrative we're being fed.

1:26.6

Here's the hotel fed here's the

1:27.5

hotel here's here's the phones here's the iPad here's the NHS in reception of

1:32.0

your hotel here's three meals a day here's a games room in the hotel have a

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