Pride, Protest, and Politics with Eva Echo

A Gay and A NonGay

W!ZARD Studios

Sexuality, Health & Fitness, Comedy, Mental Health

4.3 • 632 Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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We have a record-breaker on the podcast this week! It's Eva Echo's third appearance on A Gay And A NonGay, which puts her in a class of her own! Eva is a trans activity, NHS campaigner and is the Director of Innovation at Birmingham Pride. On this episode, James, Dan and Eva talk about pride as a protest amid rising transphobia in UK politics, the recent UK Supreme Court ruling on gender identity and the Download Festival toilet controversy. Plus, the hosts explore the difficulty of self-recognition and appreciation for activists. Follow A Gay & A NonGay TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@gaynongay⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gaynongay.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email Us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Domestic abuse isn't funny, but my show is, Hey Babes, it's me, James, and my stand-up hour.
0:06.1	Sorry, I hurt your son, said my ex to my mum, is playing London at my first ever off West End
0:11.6	venue, Park Theatre in Finsbury Park on Saturday, the 12th of July, and listeners to a gay
0:17.8	and non-gay can grab a discount with the code gay 10 because I love you.
0:23.1	Mu-ma-ma-ma-ma. That sounded gross.
0:24.9	Book now at James Barcom.com.
0:27.5	I'm also back in Edinburgh this summer from the 30th of July to the 24th of August.
0:31.9	You can grab tickets for both shows at my website, Jamesbarcomedy.com.
0:35.9	Love you. Enjoy today's episode.
0:43.5	Music at my website, Jamesbarcomedy.com. Love you. Enjoy today's episode. Hello and welcome to a gay and a non-gay.
0:45.6	I'm James Barr.
0:46.7	I'm gay.
0:47.8	Yes, I'm Dan Hudson.
0:49.2	Welcome to the podcast.
0:50.5	And he's non-gay.
0:51.4	Yes, I am non-gay.
0:52.8	And we've got Eva Echo in the house for a record-breaking, a record-breaking third time. In the house. Yeah, no one's been on this podcast three times before. Well, I have. She is the director of innovation at Birmingham Pride. She's a TED Talker. She's a sewer of the NHS. I'm not sure that's the word, but I like it. I like it as well. She's the events manager for Trans in the City,
1:08.4	and she's just been nominated as a international queer leader for policy and advocacy at the We Create Space Awards. I Evertko is in the house. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me back. Congratulations. On being incredible. Yeah. As always. Also, I love that, I don't know if you were ginger before.
1:10.2	I like that you've joined my team. No, I wasn't last time.
1:11.6	Well, welcome. on being incredible. Yeah. As always. Also, I love that, I don't know if you were Ginger before.
1:28.7	I like that you've joined my team.
1:29.8	No, I wasn't last time. Well, welcome. I'm embracing it. You've also lost a ton of weight, right? I have, and that's a whole lot of stories. Oh, is it? Is that something you were meant to say to people? I guess apparently not, no. I want me to talk about it.
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