'Pride and prejudice' before Jane Austen. Was Parson Brown a real person? Happy Panda.
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🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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1142. This week, we look at the history of the phrase "pride and prejudice," which was used frequently before Jane Austen’s 1813 novel. Then, we look at whether Parson Brown from “Winter Wonderland” was a real person, and why his name is sometimes replaced with a “circus clown.”
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| 0:00.0 | Grammar Girl here. I'm in Jan Fogarty, your friendly guide to the English language. |
| 0:10.0 | Today, we're going to look at the origin of the phrase pride and prejudice. |
| 0:14.0 | And then we'll look at whether Parson Brown in the song Winter Wonderland was a real person. |
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| 1:01.8 | notes for the special sign-up links that'll give you a whole month free. The novelist Jane Austen |
| 1:09.5 | was born exactly 250 years ago on December 16th. |
| 1:13.6 | The following segment that I'm running in her honor was written by Margie Burns from the University of Maryland. |
| 1:19.6 | Most readers hear pride and prejudice and immediately think of Jane Austen's most famous novel, |
| 1:25.6 | that salty sweet confection of romance and irony, |
| 1:29.3 | with a fairy tale ending. Few people, however, know the history of the phrase pride and prejudice, |
| 1:35.8 | which I explore in my new book, Jane Austen abolitionist, the loaded history of the phrase, |
| 1:42.0 | Pride and Prejudice. Like most Austin fans and scholars, |
| 1:46.2 | I had read and loved her novels for years without learning much about the history of the title, |
| 1:51.6 | which Austin chose after scrapping the original one, First Impressions. By the 20th century, |
| 1:58.4 | Pride and Prejudice became solely associated with Austin's 1813 novel. |
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