Now, are all the traitors present?

Let's get started, shall we?

From rags to riches.

I'm so sick of this.

Working like a dog and being treated worse.

Yorkshire to New York.

Poor climbers, you and me.

A life dedicated to revenge.

Let's make this an occasion to remember.

A woman of substance on Channel 4.

Stream now. Hello everybody and welcome to seeing Red, a true crime podcast.

Welcome back for another episode.

I'm back.

I'm through most of my drama of last week.

Thank you, Beth, and for holding the thought.

I was much appreciated while I was visiting a very sick person in hospital.

A walking heart attack, I think, is what they said. So that was fun. I don't know why I'm saying E's so much. I'm very excited about stuff, apparently. But it's nice to have you back. Because whilst... It's because you love ecstasy. Ease. What's that song from the 90s? Ease are good. E's a good. E's a good.

Anyway, it's weird recording on your own.

It's interesting because you can kind of, like I just was able to fit the timings around the baby

rather than trying to sort out the baby for our timings.

But apart from that one little thing, the rest of it was just weird and I didn't like it. And I felt like I was just sitting here talking to myself. And it reminded me once again that I don't want to get rid of you and carry on the show on my own. Because, Oh, thanks. So you're allowed to stay. I'm kind of, thank you. That's very kind of.

I'm used to it now because I don't know if I've mentioned it, but I've got another podcast called Dead Famous that I do on my own. Have you? Tell us about that. We do know about it, but actually, what if someone is listening who hasn't heard of it? Do tell us actually. I'm being sarcastic, but now I'm being serious.

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