PREVIEW - Will Kaback talks with Claire Carlson about how farmers are impacted by the government shutdown and trade wars.
Tangle
Isaac Saul
4.7 • 817 Ratings
🗓️ 15 November 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Summary
In today's episode, Senior Editor Will Kaback interviews Claire Carlson, a reporter for the Daily Yonder, who provides an in-depth look at how government shutdowns and trade wars are impacting farmers. Discover the challenges that predate these events and gain insights into the nearly existential moment farmers are experiencing. Recorded on November 10th, this conversation delves into the pressing issues facing the agricultural sector in the United States and sheds light on a critical industry often overlooked.
You can find more from Claire Carlson here.
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| 0:00.0 | From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle. |
| 0:08.4 | Hey, everyone. |
| 0:18.6 | This is Tangle Senior Editor Will Kayback. and I'm excited to be here today to share an |
| 0:24.4 | interview I conducted with Claire Carlson, who is a reporter for The Daily Yonder, and someone who is |
| 0:31.7 | closely following farm and agriculture-related issues in the United States today. I came across Claire's profile when I was |
| 0:40.6 | doing some research for the Daily Tangle newsletter. I was looking at some under-the-radar stories related to |
| 0:46.5 | the government shutdown. And I came across this piece of hers that was titled, Government Shutdown, |
| 0:52.3 | Trade Wars, hit Farmers Bottom Line Hard. |
| 0:55.6 | So I read the piece, and it struck me for a few reasons. Number one, it had these really |
| 1:00.9 | in-depth and substantive quotes from farmers about how they were being impacted by the government |
| 1:05.8 | shutdown. And it also reported more broadly about some of the issues farmers are facing that predate the shutdown. |
| 1:13.5 | This isn't an issue that we've tackled in depth at Tangle before, and it felt like a great opportunity to shine a light on this obviously critical industry, but one that we don't think much about. |
| 1:24.9 | And personally, I didn't have a great idea of the nearly existential |
| 1:29.1 | moment that it seems like farmers are in based on Claire's reporting. So I reached out and asked |
| 1:35.1 | her if she'd be interested in coming on the show to talk about what she's learned and some of the |
| 1:39.6 | issues that she's been tracking both before, during, and beyond the government shutdown. And it felt like |
| 1:45.1 | an opportune time to have this conversation as the shutdown seemingly nears its end. We recorded this |
| 1:50.9 | conversation on Tuesday, November 10th. So here is my conversation with Claire Carlson about farmers, |
| 1:58.4 | agriculture, the government shutdown, tariffs, and more. |
| 2:01.8 | If you like these kinds of conversations where we go a little bit deeper on some issues |
| 2:06.1 | that we aren't able to cover in depth in the newsletter, write in and let us know. |
| 2:10.0 | We'd love to do more interviews like this in the future and also follow up on these |
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