I don't want to go to any zoos anymore because I don't know how to really tell if they're the

quote unquote good kind or bad kind.

And I have a difficult time even trusting accreditations because then I have to go resource

to the organization that accredited and figure out if they're just a bunch of assholes.

So it's...

If I'm in a hotel room in Vegas and somebody brings in a baby tiger, like it doesn't matter

how much I know it's wrong. I'm going to pet that baby tiger

because it's so cute. And that's a huge problem because, like, one of the issues. And so in general,

I think the documentary did a good job of showing people's point of view rather than than editorializing,

but they didn't show it. I think they should have shown more of the actual abuse and contextualize

that a little better.

They didn't contextualize cub petting and why it's so bad.

Because the problem is looking at these big, gorgeous kitties, you want to pet them.

And it's really, like, huge instinctive impulse.

Like, you get it.

You want to be around them and you want to look at them.

And it's bad, because it does make you want to go. It does make you want to go to these places and see them and pet the baby cubs.

Yeah, I mean, I think that you really hit on it there is that there's no way to have these kind of interactive experiences with cubs and not be at the very least supporting the separation of cubs from their mothers. That's really the first thing that has to happen to have

a cub be on public display. It's essentially impossible for that not to have happened and have

this experience. I do think it is the case, pivoting back to the documentary that the information

is there. I think it does require a certain amount of familiarity with what's being shown or at least paying really close attention to everything on the screen.

But there is the information there that I think teaches people a lot about roadside news. We didn't know before. I mean, a couple of you mentioned this.

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