this is what they're saying on the far right is that she's a sleeper agent uh indoctrinated at a young

age by her father who is a Marxist economist now retired from Stanford and uh went on to he was

also um in some capacity,

worked for the Jamaican government in economic policy.

But he has a really large body of work.

I tried to read this thing.

He wrote recently, actually in 2022, about time.

And it was like, you know, our conception of time and how that's shaped by capitalism.

And it was very dense and hard to understand, but also really interesting.

But an essay that I wanted to ask you guys about that he wrote, I think this was in the 70s, if not mistaken.

1973, the internal colony theory.

Yes.

Yep.

The Black Ghetto as Colony, a theoretical critique and alternative formulation.

What was and is, I guess, the Black ghetto as colony theory and what was kind of the

situate, how did people think of that prior to this essay? What is he responding to?

Oh, take it away, Pascal. Well, the theory that black people in America were in toned

colony was something that developed very much in tandem with the anti-colonial

movements that were going on in Africa and the Caribbean in the late 60s, early 70s, that kind of

theorized that black people in America functioned as one internal colony that were being exploited

by domestic capitalism with the same functionalities as the colonial,

in the colonial societies in Africa and the Caribbean and otherwise.

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