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From executive producer Isaac Saul,

this is Tangle. this is Tangle.

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast,

a place we get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of my take. I'm your host, Isaac Saul. Given the nature

of Tangle, I'm drawn to people whose political views are organically evolving. That's especially

true when those people are public figures whose writing and reading is especially influential.

Meet Richard Hanania. Over the last few years, Richard has become a well-known conservative voice.

Vice President J.D. Vance has called him a friend. Elon Musk has elevated his tweets and his

post. He was even a contributor to Project 2025's Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Section.

But his story has also been rife with controversy. In 2023, a Huff Post reporter discovered

that he had been writing under a pseudonym for a number of alt-right and white supremacist

websites between 2008 and the early 2010s. His writing promoted a variety of extremist views. I'm just

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