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*PREVIEW* The Empire’s New Clothes Part 2: Tiberius’ Sun Ft. Patrick Wyman

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Comedy

4.7935 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2020

⏱️ 10 minutes

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We've brought historian Patrick Wyman (@patrick_wyman) back on to discuss more of the Roman Empire collapse similarities with our current moment. We hope you enjoy this, as it's a chance for some deep cut Rome references that we cannot ever pass up. If you want to get the whole thing, access it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/38346281 If you want one of our *fine* new shirts, designed by Matt Lubchansky, then e-mail trashfuturepodcast [at] gmail [dot] com. £15 for patrons, £20 for non-patrons, plus shipping. *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind GYDS dot com). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/

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0:00.0

So I want us to talk now about some of these crises of political legitimacy stemming from institutional rot, this inability to react to

0:24.4

circumstances that have happened in the past. And the first one that I'm going to do is going to be

0:30.2

one that you'll be well familiar with. I mean, you'll be well familiar with all of these, but

0:33.8

especially familiar with this, which is the assassination of Tiberius

0:37.9

Grakus in 133 BC.

0:40.3

Oh, fuck, we're going to have the cillerites on our ass now.

0:45.3

Scyllabros.

0:46.2

Yeah.

0:47.2

They are a thing.

0:49.2

So there is, there is an acquaintance of mine who has been pushing the Sola meme and just like whenever

0:56.1

something happens, he just posts a picture of Sola and sends it to people.

1:00.6

Like he's been doing this for about the last four or five months ever since the start of the

1:03.7

pandemic and it is picking up steam.

1:05.7

So take that as you well.

1:07.9

So can you, just for the benefit of our listeners, can you explain why the Sulla

1:13.9

meme might be particularly appropriate now?

1:16.3

So Sulla was, I think it's, you might call him the first real reactionary.

1:22.8

I think so Sola's whole thing was like he's going to bring an end to decades of political disorder and just reimpose the old system.

1:30.9

And the way that he did that was by spilling a lot of blood, killing a lot of people.

1:34.7

It's interesting.

1:35.5

Marius was actually implicated in a money laundering scheme involved in a car wash in Brazil.

1:42.3

I do like that there's a, there's a, a meme that's in dialogue with this, or like that

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