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🗓️ 30 June 2025
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It's the ginormous book that got Book Club Guy, Alan Haberman, to travel to Massachusetts to talk about. But did we have a good time reading the tome that is synonomous with "trauma care"? Our Summer 2025 Book Club choice is the best-selling "The Body Keeps the Score", a go-to reference for anyone interested in learning more about trauma and its treatment. But, because it's us, if you think we're just going to do a happy-little review of what's between the hippy-dippy cover art and fawning back cover references, you really don't know our style. In between describing our favorite examples of "that's really a therapy?" we discuss the controversy over Dr. van der Kolk's work, how much trauma-informed practice has come since the book's publication, and answer the question, "Is this book really appropriate for behavior analysts?" Whether you're looking for other BCBAs to discuss this book with you or because you just don't have time for another 400-page doorstop right now, get your ear buds in and enjoy the discussion!
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Content discussed in this episode:
Nietfeld, E. (2025, January/February). What the most famous book about trauma gets wrong. Mother Jones. https://www.motherjones.com/media/2024/12/trauma-body-keeps-the-score-van-der-kolk-psychology-therapy-ptsd/
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0:00.0 | Hey everybody and welcome to our preview of this summer 2025 book club on the book, |
0:20.6 | The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk. This preview is |
0:25.1 | free for every listener. If you want to hear the full discussion of this huge book, which goes about |
0:31.1 | two hours long, you can join us on patreon.com slash ABA Inside Track right now at the $10 and up level. |
0:37.6 | That will get you the access to the entire episode, as well as the two CEs for listening |
0:44.0 | for no additional charge. |
0:45.6 | You get a discount code for joining. |
0:47.6 | But this is sort of a quick discussion of some of our initial thoughts on the book, and |
0:51.6 | you know, maybe whether you want to check it out or not. |
0:53.6 | But if you want to hear even more detailed discussion of what's inside, you're going to have to listen to the whole |
0:57.7 | thing. But in the meantime, we hope you enjoy this free preview of our The Body Keeps the Score |
1:05.0 | Book Club. Here it is. Hey, everybody. Welcome to ABA Inside Track the podcast. That's like reading in your car, |
1:13.2 | but safer. I'm your host, Robert Perry Cruz. And with me, as always, are my fabulous co-hosts. |
1:19.5 | Hello, Rob. It's me, Diana Perry Cruz. Hi, it's me, Jackie McDonald. And since this is our |
1:26.6 | end of year, 24, 25, end-year book club episode, we decided to |
1:31.7 | bring in a real book club discussion ringer, and he's here in the studio with us. Who is here? |
1:38.3 | Our fourth chair. Well, it's me, book hub lot, Guy Allen Haberman. Yay! Wow. |
1:50.8 | The first time not over Zoom, we're all in the studio to celebrate the momentous occasion of the end of another year of book clubs. |
2:00.0 | And we will be discussing today the book The Body Keeps the Score by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. |
2:02.9 | And that is what we'll be talking about today. |
2:07.0 | So for those of you new to the show, this is our quarterly book club. |
2:09.0 | This is actually our summer book club. |
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