Hello and we are going to the symposium of the lotus eaters.

Today we're joined by Josh and Carl and we are going to talk about soon zoos the art of war

which is one of the fundamental texts of military wisdom and military advice

but it is surprisingly applicable to many other areas in life

because fundamentally you could say life is conflict or it involves a great bit of conflict.

I'm sure you like the reference and that you agree with it.

Yeah, I mean it's true.

Yeah.

It's a sort of similar approach that we took to the Book of Five Rings, which,

funny enough, I have right next to me.

And yeah, even though it's explicitly about the way of the blade if you will. There are lots of

lessons that you can learn from it, just principles which not only apply to

combat and conflict, but also to just living a good life and actually lots of the

principles for excellence in you know mastering certain weapons apply just as much as stated in the book to things like

carpentry or other professions he's saying that there is a correct way of

operating and I think that there is a correct way of operating and I think that there's a similar undercurrent

running through Sun Zoo as well and I think there's a lot of Taoism in there as well which

I'm sure we'll get to eventually. I think there's a lot of Taoism in there as well which I'm sure we'll get to eventually.

I think we will and I think it is really interesting to note that a lot of texts that are

about military wisdom just like the Book of Five rings as you said or about martial arts

they are applicable in more than that in more than this in more than that let's say

level because there are many people who read them like business leaders

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