I mean, this is all just like infuriating to hear these arguments fleshed out

as underlying all of this is just the basic premise of like,

if things were just made for use, value,

I know I've been reading Cropotkin and most political economy,

these ideas are just very present in my head,

but like fucking teaching children is like the the one of the least marketizable,

clearly things.

It's one of the things that is so clearly just for the greater good that trying to mash all

these dynamics into it creates all these stupid outcomes and these weird situations where

they've just got these like over complicated plans where they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, we got to, okay, now there's a point system. And the thing is, it's a tier point system. And like, you just needlessly complicates on itself over and over and over and over again, trying to make this like public, private, whatever kind of math makes sense. And it reproduces like these things that you just see over and over and over and over again

in American politics and society.

Like the, the, no, no, hold on a minute.

It's going to work.

Like the central premise of capitalism here that everyone is saying is the best most fucking, you know,

sure thing that functions according to this like golden logic is,

you know,

we're constantly being told no,

no, no,

but there's like a flying in the ointment.

And so we just got to cheat that.

This isn't,

it's,

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