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This I guess I don't want to call it an invention but it's a bullet right

like you're basically working on this new bullet design that is going to

pierce armor like tell us about that what is it you're working on?

Sure we call it the Dagony Dagger, so our company name Atlas Arms, the product name Dagony Dagger. These are, they have namesake in Einran's Atlas Shrudged. There's a lot to talk about, you know, the her ideas I like and the ones I don't, but I've been kind of inspired by that, so that's kind of how we named our company. So the Dagny dagger is it's a new type of bullet which can

easily penetrate armor while dodging the federal ban on armor piercing ammunition that exists in the United States.

We call a bullet APHP armor penetratingoint, because we built into it also holopoint expansion capability to increase its wounding capability on non-armored targets. We had specific reasons for doing that

despite my feelings about hollow point ammunition. And this project, let's see, it's an open source project. So Atlas Arms research, as it exists now is a 501c3 nonprofit. We are funded in this research by donations.

And then we are in the process of starting up Atlas Arms manufacturing, which will be a commercial

branch. So when we're finished with this development in a, well, several months now, we are going to release it commercially in the United States with this

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