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This Wreckage

PREVIEW - On the Leftcom Question

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2980 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2020

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Jamie and Sean continue the discussion of historical and contemporary left communism by addressing listener questions from Discord, Twitter, and elsewhere.

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0:00.0

So, okay, another one another thing that comes up a lot.

0:03.4

Thanks for all these questions by the way, everybody that contributed from what

0:06.9

Twitter, from our discord, from our discord,

0:10.2

conversations with some of my comrades in DSA.

0:14.0

What is left communist beef with national liberation struggles

0:19.0

and the right of all people to self-determination?

0:22.0

Do they want people to remain colonized? I would be way

0:26.2

out over my skis right now if I pretended to like be able to articulate the left-com

0:32.1

argument against national liberation, but I know because like, like I said before,

0:38.8

left communism without like something it's in reference to just to me seems sort of just like

0:44.1

communism right like in a sense now we're all just Orthodox Marxists we're just trying to

0:49.1

all figure out you know where we stand in that revolutionary tradition trying to bring it forward.

0:54.0

And I know that like my critique of historical national liberation and certainly the way that it's been

1:01.2

posited and done over the last several decades is that it was always the way that

1:08.4

Marxism was tied with these national liberation struggles was always about creating socialism you know by

1:14.9

beating back imperialism and colonialism it seems like the beating back

1:19.1

imperialism and colonialism part worked however if you if you look at Vietnam or you look at China or you

1:26.3

look at Angola, you look at places in Africa or East Asia or South America,

1:31.8

communism hasn't been created.

1:34.0

So it seems as though these ideas have grafted themselves onto what ultimately was a project

1:40.2

of replacing a foreign ruling class, a foreign capitalist class, and a foreign

1:46.9

political structure of the empire, replacing that with an indigenous

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