Owen Latimore, who is a State Department China expert.

And it was for a while acceptable to say in certain circles that we're better off.

If you're an American and a diplomat and you care about the American empire, that we are better off with Mao than Shankai Shek,

who was the guy before him who was very corrupt.

And Latimore says, like,

Yabasta with Shankai Shek,

let's welcome Mao and let's have diplomatic relations with Mao.

And this ends up being his undoing

because McCarthy seizes on this and it's like

well clearly this guy's a communist

and there

are there's another committee

that starts the tidings committee starts

in 1950 to investigate

all these

charges

circulating that

from Joseph McCarthy

because he's thrown out a lot of stuff

but they got to try and get a hold of it