Steve Mnuchin, he is of means. He comes from a family of means. His grandfather co-founded a yacht club

in the Hamptons. I believe that his grandfather was in the law. His father was a Yale-educated

partner at Goldman Sachs, a sort of legendary partner who innovated, I think, some of the firm's

equity trading practices. And so Stephen grew up to sort of emulate his father's

trajectory. He also attended Yale. As the son of a Yale educated partner at Goldman Sachs is liable to

do, he attended Yale in his personal Porsche and stayed not in a dorm, but in the famous Taft Hotel.

Like you do. Sure.

Yeah.

Where he, I believe, roomed with another person who's now a billionaire and also someone

who's related to a high-ranking figure in the Iraqi government.

Anyhow.

So, yeah, so he basically, the way I put it in the article, it seems to me that from where Mnuchin started,

or at least by the time he got himself to the Taft Hotel in New Haven and into Yale,

it would almost be harder for him to fall significantly down America's class ladder than to climb further up it,

given the amount of both social capital but also just capital capital,

that at that point his family and he himself, surely, in a trust fund had at his disposal. So yeah, so from there,

he goes to Solomon Brothers for a couple of years. Eventually, he does get to Goldman, and he

climbs the ladder there. You know, some reports with his former colleagues have suggested that Steve

wasn't the most intellectually brilliant traitor that you ever met, not especially book smart,

and some, you know, suggest that nepotism may have played a role. In his movement through the firm,

at the same time, no one denies that he was very good at office politics, that, you know, he also knew the sort of

institutional culture of Goldman was very good at working between teams. So he has, you know,

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