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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

PREVIEW: Epochs #238 | The Fourth Crusade: Part III with Marcus Furius

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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🗓️ 23 November 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

This week Beau continues his conversation with Marcus Furius all about the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire, ultimately culminating in the Fourth Crusade.

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0:00.0

So, in essence, the Byzant's having this sort of capacity for gathering intelligence.

0:26.2

Yeah.

0:26.7

And almost having like a predecessor like, is it MI6?

0:32.1

That's the foreign one?

0:33.3

In Britain, yeah, yeah.

0:34.1

You know, like CIA, whatever, and gathering intelligence and learning about all these people,

0:39.9

some who are closer to the periphery vampire and some that are distant.

0:44.7

You know, for instance, for instance, it covers a number of depth tribes of sort of long lost memory.

0:52.3

I mean, really, to some degree, even like the Peschenegs, you know, when extinct after the

0:56.5

two battles they fought against Alexios and John Cunanus, you know, we know about the Peson

1:00.6

eggs because of them existing in the Imperial Mnistrando.

1:04.8

So, you know, this is really, you might say the first case of like a real, in an official sense,

1:12.8

as a matter of government policy. As I'd mentioned before, the process that sort of begins

1:19.0

towards the end of, you know, when you sort of had that east-west split under Theodosius,

1:23.5

you know, with Arcadius and Eastern emperors, that the Byzantines cultivate and refine this

1:28.8

mechanism which assist them, you know, both in a diplomatic context and also in a military

1:33.1

context, they sort of learn how to fight against different enemies and they sort of gather

1:37.3

intelligence as to what their enemies might be, what their strengths are. There's an example

1:42.2

whereby I've got a feeling, I got a feeling was against the

1:46.8

Bologars, and I can't remember if they invite the Khomans or the Peschnigs, whoever it was,

1:52.2

and they got too powerful, so they invited the Kiev and Rus to sort of like counter-invade

1:57.1

them, you know, because like, oh, we can't have one em as too powerful on the Danubean frontier.

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