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PREVIEW: Epochs #177 | Thomas Cromwell: with Luca Johnson

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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Politics, News, Daily News

4.8977 Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week Beau chats to Luca Johnson all about the life, times, achievements, and downfall of Thomas Cromwell, one of Henry VIII’s most important henchmen. From his early life, his career under Cardinal Wolsey, his battles with Thomas Moore, his support then back-stabbing of the Boleyns, his role in the dissolution of the monasteries, his part in the Anne of Cleves affair, and his ultimate downfall and demise.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this epochs where I should be talking all about the life and career in times of Thomas Cromwell, not to be confused with Oliver Cromwell.

0:10.0

And I'm joined by Luca Johnson. How are you, sir?

0:12.0

Great, good morning, as always. And yeah, this is going to be, I've got a feeling this will be a good one.

0:17.0

Great to have you back in.

0:19.0

Thank you. So just to stress again for anyone, there are two important Cromwells in English history.

0:23.6

There's Oliver Cromwell for the Civil War in the 17th century who had Charles

0:29.6

Stuart's head cut off.

0:31.6

We're talking about Thomas Cromwell, who's much earlier.

0:34.6

It's during the age of Henry the 8th.

0:36.6

Right, yes. So good couple of hundred years

0:39.9

earlier, a bit more even, isn't it? Yes. And they are actually distantly related. Yeah, great

0:45.9

grand uncle. Right, right. Yeah. But just get Oliver Cromwell out of your mind. We're talking

0:51.9

about Thomas Cromwell. Now, I want to let you lead the

0:55.5

conversation and I'll be more picking your brain than the other way around if anything. However,

1:00.1

the first thing I wanted to say, a bit of an overview first or a few opening comments and

1:06.1

thoughts, there are two different ways to view Thomas Cromwell. One as sort of a baddie, I think largely in history has been thought of as something of a baddie, particularly by Catholics, but you could look at him as a goodie. So, for example, there are some characters in history, aren't there, that people's perception

1:27.5

of them are heavily influenced by how they're portraying fiction.

1:31.0

So for Thomas Cromwell, the two big ones, there's a film A Man for All Seasons.

1:35.6

Yes.

1:36.8

Which I have seen, actually, now.

1:38.2

It's a brilliant film.

1:39.3

Awesome.

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