By folks, welcome to the epochs of the lot seat is where today I am joined by Bo, and we are going to be talking about the Iron Duke, Old Nosy, the Duke of Wellington, Sir Arthur Wellesley, because he has a fascinating life, and he is a fascinating man.

And he, we were talking before we started recording, there are some people who just have a kind of

presence about them.

They just kind of impose on the scene because of who they are and what they've achieved.

And I think that Wellesley is one of those people. I think that there's no getting around the fact that you can see it in the paintings that have been done of him in his lifetime.

The man's got the most serious countenance and clearly didn't suffer fools and to me that's the sort of best of British yes that's what I want us to produce

so he would have had a real presence in a room or people said he did and yeah there's no two ways about that.

Yeah the victor of Assay he was fantastically famous in his own life I mean he became

like the victor of Amiro of Talavera of Waterloo.

Of lots of places.

Yeah, yeah, he didn't ever lose a big battle.

He barely lost in engagement.

By the end of his life in an honorary way he had like half a dozen field marshals batons.

Right.

Yeah, people like Prussia or wherever, was just making an honorary field marshal.

He was the most famous military man of the early 19th century easily.

And perhaps only Admiral Lord Nelson eclipses him as in out and out

hero stakes. Well that's the thing they're very different characters. Oh yeah that's

thing. Nelson's a very different character but what I like about Wellesley is he's not romantic

he's very practical very serious and he gets the job done.

Not that Nelson doesn't, it's the two different approaches to achieve the same goal, really, isn't it?

One thing I want to say straight away is that I think I've said this a couple times here or there.

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