So at the behest of Donald J. Trump, it appears, Mr. Martin starts exploring whether Biden's

pardons can essentially be overturned. And this is something they're still looking at.

Because you know the whole auto pen thing?

Yes.

I guess they're like Biden signed the pardons with an auto pen, which means like constitutionally or whatever, they can be overturned.

He's still saying that.

But other constitutional lawyers are like, no, it doesn't matter, even if it was signed with the auto pen.

Yeah, it is funny, though, that like... Because that's not what it says in the Constitution.

One does wonder how much stuff Biden was signing.

Like, him personally versus the auto pen?

Like, I wonder if you asked Biden about...

But you know Obama loved the auto pen?

I would love the auto pen, too.

I'd like to watch it work.

I imagine it's like a clear glass box that you put a piece of paper into like a shredder or something and there's a pen there that like is controlled by a robot arm and does the signature. I feel like it's just a stamp. But I think it's not. I think it's not. I think it has to literally be signed. Because back in the day, they only had shit like stamp and pen.

They had to differentiate it.

But JFK used the auto pen.

What kind of technology did he have?

That's what I'm saying.

So what was it?

Yeah.

We don't know.

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