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🗓️ 21 May 2021
⏱️ 9 minutes
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Jamie and Sean are joined by C. Derick Varn, host of Varnblog, Pop the Left, and Mortal Science, in a wide-ranging discussion: the role of the Democratic Socialists of America and its orientation towards the Democratic Party, the ongoing slaughter in Palestine, communization theory and more. Part 2 of 2!
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Texts discussed -
Amedeo Bordiga: "Onward, Barbarians!" - https://libcom.org/library/onwards-barbarians
Endnotes: "Onward Barbarians" - https://endnotes.org.uk/other_texts/en/endnotes-onward-barbarians
Outro: Sheer Mag - Expect the Bayonet
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| 0:00.0 | I think a lot of this is sort of going around the question of how we create some kind of unified class, right? |
| 0:11.0 | A class that is aware of itself in its own interests that is able to fight and you know |
| 0:15.9 | doesn't do its fighting in fragments like we talked about before I think maybe on the |
| 0:20.8 | stream about why you know these two big left populace |
| 0:24.9 | movements these two big class fragments came out in two different ways like |
| 0:29.5 | talking about the Bernie Sanders campaign and the George Floyd Uprising. |
| 0:34.0 | Like, why did they separate out like that? |
| 0:36.3 | And, you know, there's a lot of different answers |
| 0:39.3 | to this question. |
| 0:40.5 | I think we talk a lot about the party as an articulator is something that can kind of stitch together all of these struggles into one working class struggle |
| 0:50.1 | And there's there's the idea I don't know like who's who's advancing this idea maybe like the post left soft trots or whatever they we just have to ignore |
| 1:00.4 | identity politics and just you know black and white unite and fight around a broad class program |
| 1:06.4 | which you know as if that can't also be recuperated by capital and and then there's the kind of inter-communalism, which is like a term the Black |
| 1:16.4 | Panthers used, revolutionary inter-communalism, as this way of sort of |
| 1:21.0 | identifying oppressed people all over the world, |
| 1:25.0 | stitching their struggles together, |
| 1:27.0 | and sort of trying to build a universal from the particular, |
| 1:31.0 | like My Caucus Submerge talks about a lot like we're not going to do that just by |
| 1:36.2 | ignoring all the ways that the working class is fragmented right now we're going to do it by you know |
| 1:47.3 | taking into account these particular struggles specifically you know black liberation which is in many ways I've come to believe the skeleton key to unwinding American capitalism as a |
| 1:56.4 | route to liberation for all. So I'm not sure where you come down on this but there |
| 2:01.5 | are many many different routes that people are |
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