Hello and welcome to Brokonomics now in last week's episodes Dr. Steve Turley left us with

a really impactful thought I when I asked him what do we need to be focusing our energies on he said we need to be rebuilding culture, family and faith. Now I'm a

bit so-so on the faith, I'm not as good as I could be on the faith thing. So I had to think, who do I know

who's quite good on the faith stuff?

And I thought of Calvin Robinson.

I like to hear that I'm quite good on the faith stuff.

Thank you for that done.

Well, I mean, you seem qualified. I mean, you've got the uniform. Thank you for

seem qualified. I mean you've got the uniform and everything so just about getting there.

Yes. Yes so Calvin thank you so much for coming on.

Not all it's pleasure. Yes now I would love to ask you about the decline of the church in England.

But before I do, I kind of have to ask you about the thing of the moment which is

which is the Daily Wire versus Candice Owens.

Oh yeah.

What's your take on that then?

Okay, my take is...

I mean first of all there's a lot of office politics going on and airing

dirty laundry, I hate that, I hate office politics and I hate airing dirty laundry.

There's a lot of that.

It seems to me that Candice did want a debate, but the Daily

Wire lot were being a bit sly about knowing when she was out of the country and then filing an order to silence her and all the

just don't be underhanded just have a debate one-on-one just get Ben

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