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*PREVIEW* Britainology 15: The Cambridge Spies

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Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

During World War II and the early Cold War there were a group of English intelligence operatives who spied for the Soviet Union. All of them basically walked around with huge neon signs attached to them that said 'I am a spy for the Soviet Union,' but due to the diamond-hard class solidarity of Britain's establishment, everyone forced themselves to not notice this. We brought on Alice to discuss the Cambridge Spies and we hope you enjoy it. To get the whole episode, sign up to Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51209108 *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s live stand-up show (to be streamed over Zoom!) on May 30th here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/milo-edwards-pindos-tickets-152386986579 We support the London Renters Union, which helps people defeat their slumlords and avoid eviction. If you want to support them as well, you can here: https://londonrentersunion.org/donate Here's a central location to donate to bail funds across the US to help people held under America's utterly inhumane system: https://bailproject.org/?form=donate *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

So what I've done for the next part of the episode is I've done, I've gone through each of them one by one with the most boring first, Donald McLean.

0:19.6

As an undergraduate, McLean openly proclaimed his left-wing views

0:23.0

and was recruited into the Soviet intelligence service, then known as the NKVD. However, he gained

0:27.2

entry to the civil service by claiming to have foresworn Marxism. Well, gentlemen's agreement.

0:32.4

I have no further questions. You are still gay, aren't you? Good, good. Charlie good. Meet me in the bushes.

0:40.6

You will still be able to do the Pata song so the High Commission's Gilbert and Sullivan every year, right?

0:46.2

Oh, absolutely. Modern Major General, he'll be doing it. In 1938, he was made third secretary at the Paris Embassy, where he kept the Soviets informed about Anglo-German diplomacy.

0:55.1

He then served in Washington, D.C., from 1944 to 1948, achieving promotion to first secretary.

1:00.3

Here he became Moscow's main source of information about US thermonuclear policy.

1:04.1

By the time he was appointed head of the American department in the foreign office,

1:07.2

McLean was widely suspected of being a spy.

1:10.2

Yeah, because he told everyone he met.

1:13.6

Right, exactly.

1:15.0

This is something that we'll get on to in a moment about McLean and Burgess, who were two

1:20.9

of the spies who worked together.

1:22.1

The biggest drinkers.

1:23.4

I was going to say, I thought that I know Burgess, that rings a bell that he was a huge

1:26.5

alcoholic, but I don't know if McLean was too.

1:28.8

This is an amazing quote from the Wikipedia.

1:31.2

McLean and Burgess were soon known as the hopeless drunks.

1:33.9

Like, this is in Soviet intelligence, due to the fact that they had a hard time keeping their secret occupations to themselves.

1:39.2

How drunk do you have to be that a Russian intelligence officer is calling you a drunk.

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