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*PREVIEW* Bridging Loan to Nowhere feat. Rob Smith

TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.7935 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

The FT’s Rob Smith joins Riley and Nova to talk all about the explosion of an industry that can only be described as “private equity funded payday loans for plutocrats” and all the unique characters therein. Get the whole episode on Patreon here! RILEY ALERT Check out No Gods, No Mayors here! HUSSEIN ALERT Check out 10k Posts here! MILO ALERT Check out Milo's tour dates here:https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/liveshows NATE ALERT Nate's band Second Homes has just released their debut album, which includes the song used in this episode’s outro, and you can stream it for free here! Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

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0:00.0

Yeah, and it's a thing about London generally, right?

0:03.0

There's these whole class of people who, you know, they hang out in Mayfair,

0:07.7

they go to very expensive restaurants, they drive around in Bentley's,

0:11.1

but actually they're perpetually broke.

0:13.2

I mean, obviously, like, my obsession, Lars Windhorst is like a champion of this.

0:17.0

You love like the, you love people who are living on the very edge of extremely high precipices.

0:23.6

Exactly.

0:24.6

Exactly.

0:25.6

And why I love this story is, yeah, it connects with private credit.

0:28.6

This is an old industry. It's been around since like the 70s.

0:32.6

But in the past few years, private credit has been looking to stuff product into the boxes that it sells to people.

0:41.4

And they've been really big on something called asset bank private credit.

0:45.2

So they're like, oh, this is backed by property.

0:48.0

Property safe.

0:49.4

Securitizing property and mortgages never went wrong.

0:53.5

Famously never gone wrong.

0:55.6

So they've just piled into this space.

0:58.3

So they've been providing loans to the bridging lenders.

1:01.5

And the other weird phenomenon you get is, as we said, like a bank couldn't provide one

1:05.8

of these mortgages.

1:07.1

But often the banks fund the bridging lenders.

1:10.3

So, you know, like Barclays wouldn't provide a loan to James Stunt,

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