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PREVIEW: Ben Burgis on Logic and Arguments

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Comedy, Government, News, Culture, Politics

4.4645 Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2019

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Current Affairs editor-in-chief Nathan J. Robinson, financial editor Sparky Abraham and contributing editor Aisling McCrea sit down with philosophy professor Ben Burgis to discuss his new book Give Them An Argument: Logic for the Left. This episode will be unlocked in ten days. To get early access to this episode, as well as other exclusive bonus content, consider becoming one of our patrons at Patreon.com/CurrentAffairs.

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Once we decide what we care about, the facts can be very helpful in helping us reason about

0:06.4

how to achieve the goals that we care about, but the facts can't tell us which goals to care

0:11.2

about in the first place.

0:13.1

Which means that Ben Shapiro and Iron Rander as much operating on feelings as anybody else.

0:18.9

Of course, because if they didn't have values, you know, there weren't preferences that they had about moral and political outcomes,

0:29.0

then they would just be stating in facts in a neutral way and they would never actually get around to having opinions about capitalism versus socialism,

0:38.0

or whether altruism was good or bad, or whether abortion was right or wrong,

0:42.2

or any of these other things that the Rans and the Shapiro's of the world are constantly

0:46.5

talking about. Because any time you have any kind of argument where the conclusion follows

0:52.5

for the premises, and the conclusion is a

0:56.0

political or moral conclusion, then there has to be a moral political premise in there somewhere

1:00.8

or it just wouldn't follow.

1:02.7

It's funny, right?

1:03.3

Because they do the little bait and switch where when we talk about something like compassion

1:07.4

as one of our core values, that gets turned into a feeling. That gets

1:10.9

characterized as a feeling, right? And so therefore, any argument that proceeds with value as

1:15.5

kind of the underlying moral premise is an argument based on feeling versus if, you know,

1:19.3

they come through and they say, well, capitalism, individual, individual liberty. It's like,

1:23.1

like, that's somehow a fact. That's not a feeling. So I feel like they're like one of the

1:27.1

moves is to really

1:27.9

conflate like quote unquote feelings or quote unquote emotion with what are actually just just

1:33.1

like almost axiomatic moral premises, right? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's fine to say

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