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TRASHFUTURE

*PREVIEW* Bad Boys ft. Daniel Trilling

TRASHFUTURE

TRASHFUTURE

Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Daniel Trilling rejoins Riley, Hussein, and Alice for an episode with a more serious tone, talking about London's Metropolitan Police and the various corruption scandals that have eaten away at the myth of "Policing by Consent." We conclude that even the liberal position on reforming the Met now includes some broad/loose definition of abolition, where huge numbers of police powers are removed. Read Daniel's article at the LRB here: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v45/n07/daniel-trilling/not-much-like-consent Get the whole episode on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/81088153 *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ *MILO ALERT* Check out Milo’s upcoming live shows here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows and check out a recording of Milo’s special PINDOS available on YouTube here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRI7uwTPJtg Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

You know, we mentioned earlier the way the MET was used during a minor strike, but the MET was

0:04.0

also used in the 19th century to go and repress chartist demonstrations in other bits of

0:07.8

the country.

0:08.7

You know, there are certain points at which you can clearly see the government has used

0:12.7

the police as a tool of class power.

0:15.5

But I think more often than that, it's about, and this goes back to that, and I think this partly explains

0:23.3

why this stuff has become so much more controversial and intense in the last five, ten years.

0:28.5

It's not about police protecting one identifiable group of society from another a lot of the

0:35.4

time. It's that what they're there is cleaning up

0:37.9

the mess and chaos and destruction caused by capitalism and the particular type of capitalism

0:43.9

that we, you know, we've been living under for several decades. And it's, I suppose it's,

0:49.6

I think this is also a useful place to bring in. I think you're an implicit alternative to policing

0:56.7

by consent of an account of the role of the Met specifically that runs through your article,

1:01.9

which is that they have to be understood as the junior partner in the triple partnership of

1:06.9

the Tory party specifically, the right wing press specifically, and then the police forces generally and the Met specifically in basically being the three main tools of like right wing hegemony.

1:17.7

And that is with a lot of like what the Met choose, not just how the Met chooses to operate, you know, for example, but the kinds of things that they, the kinds of things that they, that they,

1:28.3

that they choose to criminalize. So like a lot of the like nonviolent drug, like drug crime and

1:32.5

stuff, the fact that like they threatened to quit if they can't do stop and search on whoever

1:36.8

they want. But also that in seeing them this way, I think, right? You also, you also can

1:43.3

account for some of their fail,

1:44.7

some of their collapse in legitimacy, which is that the image of the police as something that

1:50.1

does something for you and in a way that makes, in a way that appeals to people that might

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