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The War on Cars

PREVIEW: Are Cyclists Too Mean Online?

The War on Cars

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Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.9937 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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This is a preview of a Patreon-exclusive bonus episode. For complete access to this and all of our bonus content, plus ad-free versions of regular episodes, merch discounts, pre-sale tickets to live shows and more, become a Patreon supporter of The War on Cars.

Are cyclists too mean online? To read some of the headlines about a recent study, you'd think the answer was yes. "Forceful bike campaigners can undermine UK cycle lane planning, report finds," blared the headline in The Guardian. The subhead said that "toxic" online debates can make officials and other people in government reluctant to pursue cycling-related transportation projects. Adding one and one together, any reader would likely assume that it's those "forceful bike campaigners" who are mostly responsible for the "toxic" online debates. This story spread online and confirmed a lot of people's priors. Those darn cyclists! If only they'd behave they'd deserve safer streets!

Not so fast. The actual study was a bit more complicated than the headlines and social media posts might have led people to believe. It also offers good lessons for effective engagement to get the change we want at the scale we need, no matter the issue.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, I'm Doug Gordon.

0:12.8

Last month, a study came out that looked at people's online behavior and its effects

0:17.7

on support for things like bike lanes among elected officials.

0:21.4

To read the headlines and social media posts, you'd think that the main conclusion was that

0:26.1

cyclists are too mean on the internet and are hurting their chances of getting safer streets.

0:31.5

But that's not exactly what the studies showed.

0:34.7

In this bonus episode of the War on Cars, we dive into the study and talk about

0:39.8

effective advocacy in a world where we are all terminally online. If you want to hear the whole

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1:42.7

Are cyclists and people who push for better bike infrastructure too mean on social media?

1:50.1

Wait, wait, really?

1:51.6

Because, like, I have to say, like, I mean, obviously everybody is too mean on social media, I guess.

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