So I'm sure a lot of people have noticed that Jordan Peterson has been kind of spiraling again.

Yeah, so I started reading his op-ed for the National Post, his Barry Weiss style, why I'm leaving the

University of Toronto piece. I read most of it, and I thought to myself, it's great that I have

the luxury to not have to care about this. I'm just going to put it away, going to close the tab, not going to engage, it's great that I have the luxury to not have to care about this. I'm just

going to put it away, going to close the tab, not going to engage in any discourse on this, and it'll

go away in a few days. Yeah, he's pretty, he's pretty tiresome and he's pretty tedious. And like,

I don't even think he gives you a bit of a spent force, I think, too. too I mean he really peaked in like 2017 yeah definitely I mean

I think he was the victim somewhat of the kind of schisms on the right that came around you know came

out over Trump I think a lot of his appeal also as I think I've said before on the show actually drew

from people who didn't really recognize him as a political thinker like he, he always comes up in the like bodybuilding YouTube that I watch.

And like for those guys, he's just like, they only hear the part of it where it's like,

clean your room, like be ordered, whatever.

Like, for them, it's like paternal self-help kind of presence.

Like, that's what he is to them.

But, you know, he's such a tedious guy, among other reasons, because, like, he doesn't

even give you, like, all I want from a right-wing thinker is something original, some kind of,

like, I want my reactionary ideas to be at least, like, somewhat internally coherent. And I don't

know, Peterson is just, like, I guess part of what made him successful is that it was always so hard to pin him down and what he was actually saying, which is so funny because like this is a guy whose whole thing is like he's against postmodernism, you know, he's against like structurelessness or whatever. And it's like if you if you take any like random passage from Peterson's maps of meaning. It's like every bit is difficult to understand

and every bit is incoherent as like some of the most like opaque labyrinthine like post-structuralist

writing, you know, you can find. And as I understand, I mean, this whole, his whole project about

like rooting society and these kind of, you knowic archetypes i mean that sounds very postmodern

to me it's like we don't have there are no there are no concrete material foundations what we have

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