Well, I have to say, not having known anything about this movie before I started watching it,

I really didn't know what to expect. And I wasn't even sure, you know, occasionally this will

happen with super delegate apps where I'm not really sure do people like this movie. Are they,

you know, sometimes people put stuff in our crosshairs because they want us to tear it down.

Other times it's because there's something kind of cool and

weird that they want to put on our radar and hear us discuss. And this one definitely falls into the

latter category. It's a very strange film. It has a kind of an intensely campy quality, which I

quite like to have to say. I can understand why it wasn't, you know, a huge box office success. I think

it's just a little too

weird. But it is, uh, it is very interesting. And within five or ten minutes of it starting, I was like,

okay, I see why they wanted us to watch this movie. This is such a perfect subject for the Michael

and Us podcast. I just hope we can get through, uh, discussing it without using the phrase end of

history more than once.

Oh shit. I was just about to say it. The movie brought to mind for me a couple of other movies

released around the same time. The Matrix is the most obvious example. That scene where they're

breaking through the wall, where there's the poster for the beach town, reminded me of the end

of the Truman show. Yes, yes. Which was a sort of Plato's alleg poster for the Beach Town, reminded me of the end of the Truman Show.

Yes, yes.

Which was a sort of Plato's allegory of the cave movie.

Actually, the Truman Show has a lot in common with The Matrix, doesn't it?

And also, American Beauty in its own way, has a lot in common with the Matrix,

because the questions that it's asking are essentially like this is the

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