Let me start. Let's just get into it.

Yeah, because I mean, we're doing a very, this is not the usual thing.

It's a special, I'm old enough that I remember the first time Superman and Spider-Man

were in the scene comic book.

So I always get a tingle at the word crossover.

But this is a special crossover with the West Wing thing and the Michael and Us podcast.

I'm Josh Olson.

We got Dave Anthony, my co-host.

And we've got Luke Savage and Will Sloan from the Michael Nus podcast because we had to kind of

convene this emergency session because something happened this week. And you know, you guys sort of

have done a lot of focusing on Michael Moore. And look, I know that Michael's, you know, there's a lot

of areas where he sort of can let people down. But as you have said, Luke, and, you know, there's a lot of areas where he sort of can let people down. But as you have said,

Luke, and, you know, he's also been the one voice in the wilderness many times and has shown great

courage. And I am a firm believer that, you know, that stuff counts. I even got, you know,

people are like really disappointed in Bernie and angry at Bernie I'm like leave

fucking Bernie alone Jesus Christ it's like he's he's done enough right now if Bernie if Bernie turned

around and endorsed Trump I'd be like whatever who gives you shit like hey Michael Michael Moore's

take down of Elizabeth Warren on his podcast was amazing. It was delightful.

And he does stuff like that.

And, you know, he's the guy who said, you know,

Trump's going to win because you're not doing this to these people.

You know, he's, he's right.

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