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Michael and Us

PREVIEW - #221 - Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Dubya (w/ Jack Frayne-Reid)

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2021

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

PATREON EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/49309128 In 2006, Neil Young reunited with Crosby, Stills, and Nash to embark on a tour that he hoped would raise consciousness against the Iraq War, swing the midterms for the Democrats, and establish a link between the protest music of the '60s and the George W. Bush era. Jack Frayne-Reid (cohost of the Reel Politik podcast) fills in for Luke to discuss Neil Young's documentary CSNY/DEJA VU (2008), and the mild pleasures and serious limitations of Young's Iraq War-themed music. PLUS: the strange story of former Labour MP Mike Gapes.

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But what I do know is what I saw in this film CSNY Dejaveu, which is a 2008 documentary co-directed by

0:16.4

Neil Young himself, which chronicles their 2006 tour called The Freedom of Speech Tour.

0:23.0

And this is a documentary that you brought to the table. It is a fantastic suggestion.

0:29.4

How did you first hear about it?

0:31.2

Well, I am a devotee of Neil Young. I heard about it because I hear about everything Neil does. I would say there's

0:40.8

not a corner of his catalogue that is known to the public that I haven't to some extent explored.

0:46.8

So yeah, I watched this film quite a few years ago and, you know, I liked it at the time. I was like,

0:53.2

I'm against the war. I love Neil Young. Like, what's not to like? But, you know, I liked it at the time. I was like, I'm against the war. I love Neil Young.

0:55.3

Like, what's not to like? But, you know, subsequently, I've developed a more nuanced position

1:00.8

on this film. And whilst I still love Neil Young, a great deal, I didn't think it would be

1:07.9

interesting to bring one of, like like the good concert films of him.

1:12.4

That's just him playing great music to the table for Michael and Us or anything like that.

1:16.3

I've long thought that this film would be perfect for this show

1:20.1

because it's a particularly mid-2000s post-Michael Moore kind of movie.

1:26.9

Will, I'm interested in your perspective as someone

1:29.7

who hasn't religiously devoured everything Neil Young's ever done. Like, what were your thoughts

1:34.6

on the political songs that the band had in their arsenal? I mean, some of it's a little

1:40.2

didactic. Some of it's okay. I mean, you know, I think like what is the purpose of art?

1:47.9

I'm sympathetic in this movie that Neil Young believes he has a responsibility as an artist to use

1:54.1

his platform to communicate ideas and to raise consciousness, you know, deliver the medicine

2:00.0

with a spoonful of sugar. And I, I do respect that

2:03.1

in a way. I think art, though, is better at capturing the mood or helping us make sense of what's

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